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Open meetings: virtual or in-person? Why not both?

We’ve been Zooming for a while, but the Open Meetings law prefers in-person meetings. So – why not both at the same time?

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What’s not to like about HB 453, “An act relating to open meetings” and permanently codifying the right of public agencies to conduct meetings by video teleconference?

The answer is simple.

House Bill 453 threatens the preference for in-person meetings that has existed in the Open Meetings Act since its enactment. It abridges the public’s right to make its collective “voice“ heard in face to face interaction with its elected and appointed officials by authorizing those officials, without limitation, to erect electronic barriers to the public's ability to hold them accountable at in-person meetings.

Clearly, there is a need for legislative action to extend the temporary modifications to the Open Meetings Act. Those modifications were originally provided for in 2020’s SB 150 and extended through April 2022 under 2022’s SB 25. Public agencies across the state have developed and improved technologies for conducting “virtual” meetings in the last two years. While still imperfect, “virtual” meetings have promoted public participation and ultimately redounded to the public’s benefit.

Recent examples of failed video teleconferenced meetings include a convention board meeting in Western Kentucky disrupted by technology miscues and a Franklin County meeting disrupted by Zoom bombers.

What has been lost in this debate is the reality that these temporary modifications were necessitated by public health concerns. They were not intended to become a permanent legal substitute for in-person meetings or create a legal mechanism by which public officials might indiscriminately insulate themselves from the constituents they serve.

The better course for Kentucky is the hybrid model for public meetings. A hybrid meeting is one that is conducted in person and simultaneously live streamed. Hybrid meetings promote the broadest possible public participation.

What are loosely described as a “video teleconferenced” meetings in HB 453 are actually “virtual” meetings. They were not intended as a permanent — and in some respects inferior — substitute for in-person meetings.

“Video teleconferenced” meetings are not synonymous with “remote” or “virtual” meetings

“Video teleconferenced” meetings have existed in the Open Meetings Act at KRS 61.826 since 1994. The term was loosely defined in that pre-Internet era, to describe “one meeting, occurring in two or more locations, where individuals can see and hear each other by means of video and audio equipment.” KRS 61.805(5). The goal of the 1994 law was to expand opportunities for Kentuckians residing hundreds of miles from a public agency’s in-person meeting site to “attend” at designated meetings sites that afforded them the ability to see and hear the meeting by means of a video teleconference.

The example often given was a University of Kentucky Board of Trustees’ meeting, conducted in Lexington, at which tuition hikes were to be discussed. Parents of UK students from across the Commonwealth had an interest in the topic but not always the means to attend the meeting in person. If the Board provided video teleconferencing opportunities, and located and identified meeting sites that supported video teleconferencing, parents could “attend” the meeting to observe the discussion of tuition increases — that would directly affect them — without traveling to Lexington.

In this example, the Board conducted an in-person meeting in Lexington to which the public was physically admitted. If it elected to provide video teleconferencing of its in-person meeting under KRS 61.826, the Board was required to provide meeting notice that identified the video teleconferenced meeting sites and which, if any, was the primary location. It was required to suspend the in-person meeting if there was any disruption in the audio or video broadcast. Finally, it could not conduct a video teleconference of any meeting at which a closed session was planned.

This little used statute — aimed at promoting broader public participation — was modified in 2018 to permit “remote” participation of a non-present member at an in-person meeting of the public agency. The General Assembly deleted the only legal impediment to the use of KRS 61.826 for this purpose — which prohibited closed sessions at video teleconferenced meetings — to accommodate public officials’ convenience.

In our example, a non-present UK Board trustee traveling abroad could participate in an in-person meeting, including a closed session, from a hotel room in Europe.

Other states’ open meetings laws permit this practice but established guardrails on its use, including required roll call votes, a minimum number of in-person meetings, and limits on the number of a member’s unexcused absences from in-person meetings. Even as amended in 2018, KRS 61.826 did not suspend the requirement of in-person meetings or create a pre-pandemic option to conduct “virtual meetings” to which the public was “admitted” through an electronic link.

The Open Meetings Act's preference for in-person meetings

The Kentucky Open Meetings Act exhibits a preference in favor of in-person meetings.

Although the courts have had few occasions to address the issue, in 1977 the Supreme Court declared void the Jefferson County Fiscal Court’s telephonic meeting and vote on the public business with which the fiscal court was charged.

The Court’s ruling disfavored electronic participation in lieu of physical presence. The law itself envisions “meeting room conditions, including adequate space, seating, and acoustics, which insofar as is feasible allow effective public observation of the public meetings”

The Supreme Court recognized a foundational principle that adheres in the law, eloquently attested to by the editorial board of the Virginia Daily Progress in the early days of the pandemic:

“While avoiding personal contact is important to our physical health at this time, it is not ideal for the health of our democracy over the long run.

“Our leaders must commit to a return to open meetings at shared locations just as soon as the all-clear is given. Electronic meetings might protect them from the discomfort of confronting their critics in person. But democracy cannot thrive in such an environment.”

The hybrid model for public meetings

Great efforts have been expended in other states to preserve accountability through in-person meetings and to simultaneously expand public participation through “virtual” meetings. Hybrid meetings — which combine requirements for in-person and virtual public meeting employing technology mastered during the pandemic — best serve the public’s interest.

The General Assembly should consider the hybrid meeting option before it sacrifices “the health of our democracy” by giving public agencies the unfettered discretion to conduct virtual public meetings, and abandon in-person meetings, thus evading the discomfort of public opposition on contentious issues.

At a minimum, the General Assembly should establish additional guardrails for conducting “virtual” meetings, described as video teleconferenced meetings, under HB 453. These guardrails include:

  • mandatory roll call votes with microphones on;
  • electronic distribution of meeting materials to be discussed at the same time the materials are distributed to agency members;
  • a dedicated phone line for citizens to report disruption of the audio or video signal as the meeting proceeds;
  • steps to ensure any visual aids presented to agency members are equally visible to the public; and
  • a fixed minimum number of in-person meetings each year.

The new language in HB 453, requiring agency members who participate in a video teleconference to “remain visible on camera at all times that business is being discussed,” is an additional needed guardrail.

These requirements provide at least some protection for the public’s right to fully participate in a public meeting.

The General Assembly should consider the hybrid option for public meetings under the Open Meetings Act. Alternatively, the General Assembly must consider creating additional guardrails on video teleconferenced/virtual meetings. Nothing less than “the health of our democracy” rests in the balance.


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Amye Bensenhaver

Amye is a retired assistant AG who specialized in open records laws. She is the co-founder of the Kentucky Open Government Coalition. (Read the rest of her bio on the Contributors page.)



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